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so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that debate the gravitas of being the president of the united states fac
so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what...
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romney's dominant first presidential debate now ann will be in the spotlight. abc news announcing she will make her television debut by co hosting good morning america next week. mrs. romney will fill in for robin roberts as she continues to recover from a blood disorder. >>> jobless claims rising by 367,000 in the latest -- in the last week. cheryl casosone has two hiring right now. >> good morning, heather. >> the jobs report today we are not expecting a good number at all. expect 113,000. that is not a good number. working on finding people jobs. obviously we have a couple of companies that want to pilot. they use inhome care. this is for those disabled and they can help if you are pregnant you have to be on bed rest things like that. 1800 jobs you can make about 900 an hour if you are nonmedical inhome care specialist. they are looking to a span across the country. they will train you. you won't have to have the medical background to get a position just don't have a criminal record. >> an american multi national company is hiring. >> this is amc corporation
romney's dominant first presidential debate now ann will be in the spotlight. abc news announcing she will make her television debut by co hosting good morning america next week. mrs. romney will fill in for robin roberts as she continues to recover from a blood disorder. >>> jobless claims rising by 367,000 in the latest -- in the last week. cheryl casosone has two hiring right now. >> good morning, heather. >> the jobs report today we are not expecting a good number at...
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i mean you got the vice presidential debate coming up next week. how does he make up for what he-- missed opportunity. >> well, staircase humor in the debate he has to say, did -- he should have said, and mitt romney, are you right, he not appearing before 60 or 70 million people. the president did not play to offense or defense wednesday night. he didn't defend himself against charges that mitt romney made of his administration that have been fact checked time and again on the president's side. and he didn't play offense. he didn't give a sense where he wanted to go. judy, vice presidential debate does matter because the democrats can't lose two in a row. they really can't. i think joe biden is in a stronger position because he has spent a lot of time, four years, defending, explaining and making the case for barack obama whereas paul ryan is in an awkward position. he's going to defend, make the case to mitt romney whom he has basically been joined to the hip at six weeks ago. and you know, he's got the whole independent political identity himsel
i mean you got the vice presidential debate coming up next week. how does he make up for what he-- missed opportunity. >> well, staircase humor in the debate he has to say, did -- he should have said, and mitt romney, are you right, he not appearing before 60 or 70 million people. the president did not play to offense or defense wednesday night. he didn't defend himself against charges that mitt romney made of his administration that have been fact checked time and again on the...
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melissa: republican presidential candidate mitt romney on the attack, unemployment is too high and more government just is not the answer. supporters on both sides agree romney crushed in the debate but will it add up to votes? karl rove here to break it down. >>> money tonight, gas shortage in california. prices skyrocket. stations close. will it spread across the country? we have details. >>> i'm getting serious about the saving the post office. i'm the turnaround specialist who can avoid a $11 billion default. i'm offering my services to the postmaster general. he is here in a fox business exclusive. even when they say it's not you know it is always about money. melissa: first let's take a look at the market headlines. all three major indices close in the green. all 10 sectors in the s&p finished on the plus side for a fourth straight day of gains. cisco names new number two. gary moore named president and chief operating officer. ceo john chambers says he will stay in his position between two and four more years. jobless claims rose slightly this week, climbing by 4,000 to 367,000.
melissa: republican presidential candidate mitt romney on the attack, unemployment is too high and more government just is not the answer. supporters on both sides agree romney crushed in the debate but will it add up to votes? karl rove here to break it down. >>> money tonight, gas shortage in california. prices skyrocket. stations close. will it spread across the country? we have details. >>> i'm getting serious about the saving the post office. i'm the turnaround specialist...
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be presidential. but that doesn't really work in debates for all of the reasons we are talking about here, you have an opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged gingrich in a later debate and it worked better and i think the challenge for them now, for the obama team now is, they clearly can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation that happened with al fore where, al gore where you are seeing a different human being on the stage in the second debate than you are in the first debate. >> rose: go ahead. >> i think there is a certain starkness in the debate that you don't have in the convention. the contrast is extraordinary, in a convention, you are idolized 20,000 people in the room all love you, the energy of the crowd carries you on its shoulders, almost what you say doesn't matter long as long as you don't screw up, on a debate, there is
be presidential. but that doesn't really work in debates for all of the reasons we are talking about here, you have an opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged gingrich in a later debate and it worked better and i think the challenge for them now, for the obama team now is, they clearly can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation...
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. >> with 33 days until the presidential election moments ago on fox news mitt romney said he was completely wrong when he said that 47% of americans are hopele lless losers. he was asked what he should have said. >> what would you have said if he did bring it up? >> well, clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions now and again you are going to say something that does not come out right. i said something that is completely wrong. i believe that my life has shown that i care about 100%. and that has been demonstrated throughout my life. this campaign is about the 100%. when i'm president it will be about helping 100% >> here is what romney said after mother jones revealed romney's 47% remarks. >> it is a question and answer about the campaign and how i'm going to get the 51 or 52% that i need. of course there is a very different approach of the two different campaigns as i point out i recognize that among those that pay no tax 47% of americans i'm not going to be highly successful of lowers taxes. and likewise those who are reliant on go
. >> with 33 days until the presidential election moments ago on fox news mitt romney said he was completely wrong when he said that 47% of americans are hopele lless losers. he was asked what he should have said. >> what would you have said if he did bring it up? >> well, clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions now and again you are going to say something that does not come out right. i said something that is...
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why didn't -- first do you agree it was a false statement by romney and second, if so, why didn't the president attack it as such? >> clearly false. strangest moment i had ever heard where you have a presidential candidate promising to veto his own economic agenda. it is just very, very strange. we're all talking about that today, too. i think that the president you know you open up the debates. you actually -- the president -- let the challenger get some punches in. i think by repeatedly and boldly and flamboyantly lying about his positions, romney leaves himself open much the same way paul ryan did after his convention speech to -- you know, this is a mendacious person. because the other thing about romney last night is he came across as incredibly smart. this is a guy who clearly knows better. this is a guy who is clearly shading the truth because he can. not because he's ignorant or somehow doesn't quite grasp his own policies like we might have thought george w. bush had trouble with. >> eliot: you're right. romney came across as smart. that's what affected it. doug, my question
why didn't -- first do you agree it was a false statement by romney and second, if so, why didn't the president attack it as such? >> clearly false. strangest moment i had ever heard where you have a presidential candidate promising to veto his own economic agenda. it is just very, very strange. we're all talking about that today, too. i think that the president you know you open up the debates. you actually -- the president -- let the challenger get some punches in. i think by repeatedly...
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governor mitt romney was the decisive winner in last night's presidential debate. in just a moment, i will be joined for an exclusive interview by both governor romney and his runningmate, congressman paul ryan. even the most left-wing observers have conceded that their candzidate bombed without his teleprompter last night. obama aides are trying to pin it all on mitt romney. believe it or not, they are accusing the governor of lying. of course, they are the ones that are. watch this. >> again and again and again, he told the story to the american people that is completely... in contrast with what he said before and unfounded in fact. and that's going to catch up with him. i give him credit for strong performance. i give him an "f" for being honest with the american people. >> sean: for 90 minutes, president obama lied about his record and president obama lied about what he would do in a second term. you want proof? here it is. >> if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth, the truth. >> the fact check. >> this claim is based on a fiscal fic
governor mitt romney was the decisive winner in last night's presidential debate. in just a moment, i will be joined for an exclusive interview by both governor romney and his runningmate, congressman paul ryan. even the most left-wing observers have conceded that their candzidate bombed without his teleprompter last night. obama aides are trying to pin it all on mitt romney. believe it or not, they are accusing the governor of lying. of course, they are the ones that are. watch this. >>...
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. >> stephanie: he said romney has a thin resume to be a presidential candidate. he argues that romney's resume is rather thin. he said i haven't seen the government run as a business. and then crystal said he has a thin resume for a presidential candidate. he is a one-term governor in an atypical state. and he didn't change much for massachusetts. the thing he did change is the drop in employment rate. okay. i'm going to try one more time and then i'm going to start drinking. josh go ahead. >> caller: oh, hey. love you guys. especially here in south georgia you can imagine there aren't many progressive voices here. >> stephanie: i can imagine. >> caller: i wanted to give a shout out to the current chat room. this is kool-aid -- >> stephanie: all right. >> and he just burned up all of his time with that. >> stephanie: and time. actress olivia mund is next on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ they're going to vote for who they're going to vote for. most of us already know who we're going to vote for. i don't believe a lot of the people who call themselves moderates
. >> stephanie: he said romney has a thin resume to be a presidential candidate. he argues that romney's resume is rather thin. he said i haven't seen the government run as a business. and then crystal said he has a thin resume for a presidential candidate. he is a one-term governor in an atypical state. and he didn't change much for massachusetts. the thing he did change is the drop in employment rate. okay. i'm going to try one more time and then i'm going to start drinking. josh go...
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i think what we saw last night, we saw mitt romney, who looks presidential, who has a plan for the future, who talked about his plan and talked about creating 12 million jobs. what we saw from president obama was -- wait a minute, piers. what we saw once again was -- >> this is my show, young lady. moving to brent o'donnell at high speed. now, from a purely technical point of view, in the way that barack obama conducted himself in appearance last night, a few things surprised me. most of all as i was watching, i was live tweeting, this continual looking down at his notes, disengaging completely from mitt romney. i just thought it looked strange. >> yeah. you know, his body language, what told an incredible story, the way he communicated last night said more than he actually said with his mouth. maria said he looked into the camera. he was looking down at his notepad way more than he was looking into the camera and his body language basically said you know, i'm not interested in being here, i'm irritated i have to be here, i'm going to argue with the moderator for five seconds and i'm goin
i think what we saw last night, we saw mitt romney, who looks presidential, who has a plan for the future, who talked about his plan and talked about creating 12 million jobs. what we saw from president obama was -- wait a minute, piers. what we saw once again was -- >> this is my show, young lady. moving to brent o'donnell at high speed. now, from a purely technical point of view, in the way that barack obama conducted himself in appearance last night, a few things surprised me. most of...
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republican presidential nominee mitt romney will deliver a speech on foreign policy next monday at virginia military institute in lexington. romney and his running mate, paul ryan, campaigned in fisherville, virginia yesterday. though it didn't come up in we had night's debate, romney is talking about his 47% comment again saying his choice of words was, quote, wrong. more on that coming up later on in this hour. in this hour. >>> an alert now for women in fairfax county. police are looking if a suspected serial fondler. >> he has approached at least five women, usual hi from behind appear grabbing them and taking often. -- usually from behind and grabbing them and taking off. >> reporter: this firveg victim just came forward. she hadn't initially reported the incident. -- this fifth victim just came forward. she was walking here on hibling avenue in ving field at the same place where another woman says she too was victimized by what police believe is a serial fondler. the man is described as a man in his 30s with dark eyeand a neatly trimmed beard. victims say he usually comes up from behi
republican presidential nominee mitt romney will deliver a speech on foreign policy next monday at virginia military institute in lexington. romney and his running mate, paul ryan, campaigned in fisherville, virginia yesterday. though it didn't come up in we had night's debate, romney is talking about his 47% comment again saying his choice of words was, quote, wrong. more on that coming up later on in this hour. in this hour. >>> an alert now for women in fairfax county. police are...
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debate in denver colorado consensus among pundits is that mitt romney won the debate and strictly in terms of style he did when pressed in the fight all night against a lethargic pro that president obama is the center for american progress pointed out the supporting romney told twenty seven lies or half truths in a matter of just the thirty eight minutes he spoke on stage last night on the lied about his own tax plan saying that it's not a five trillion dollars tax cut despite independent analysts of his plan saying it is a lot about obamacare repeating the same debunked myth that the president cut over seven hundred billion from medicare lied about the president's wall street reform law saying it doesn't need five banks is being too big to fail and deserving a blank check bailouts there is no such provision in the law and even flirted with the idea of death panels in obamacare president obama's campaign released this ad today highlighting many of these laws. i'm barack obama and i approve this message i'm not in favor of a five trillion dollar tax cut that's not my plan the nonparti
debate in denver colorado consensus among pundits is that mitt romney won the debate and strictly in terms of style he did when pressed in the fight all night against a lethargic pro that president obama is the center for american progress pointed out the supporting romney told twenty seven lies or half truths in a matter of just the thirty eight minutes he spoke on stage last night on the lied about his own tax plan saying that it's not a five trillion dollars tax cut despite independent...
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the controversy has spilled in the presidential race with democrats accusing mitt romney and the republicans of waging a war on women. richard lui continues our look at the candidates' stand on the issues. some new information on abortion today. >> that's right, chris. it may not be all about the economy for one group. one in six registered voters say the candidate they vote for must share their view on abortion says gallup. it's one of the highest rates in 20 years. for supporters of abortion rights, 15% say here this they must agree with who they vote for. a larger portion of opponents of abortion rights, 21% there, say the very came. now, candidates know that this issue resonates, and it could be predictive. the public religion research institute found a majority of advocates of abortion rights favor president obama. now, opponents of abortion rights, they go with romney, 74%. now, the two candidates are diametrically opposed. romney would end funding to planned parenthood, he'd be against mandatory contraception coverage, and said he'd overturn roe v. wade, but at one point he wanted the
the controversy has spilled in the presidential race with democrats accusing mitt romney and the republicans of waging a war on women. richard lui continues our look at the candidates' stand on the issues. some new information on abortion today. >> that's right, chris. it may not be all about the economy for one group. one in six registered voters say the candidate they vote for must share their view on abortion says gallup. it's one of the highest rates in 20 years. for supporters of...
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the president preferred to remain presidential and de. i think mitt romney did some damage. he did well in the debate. but the truth is he's become, he has become totally untethered from everything he said before andith this final apology for the 47% remark it really does look like a guy who will say anything to get to be president of the united states. people look presidential. i don't think president obama will call mitt romney a liar in the next debate. that's not presidential. i think he'll be much more aggressive. i don't think romney is a liar, he just manages to convince himself that any position is fine at the time. ted kennedy had it best. ted kennedy said i'm the pro choice candidate. my candidate is the multiple choice candidates. mitt romney says whatever he has to say and there's no core belief there. that's a problem for him in the general election because i think people are into that. they get that politicians say anything and obama doesn't do that. obama pretty much tells like it is. did he do a good job in the debate? >> no. >> governor i want to ask you abo
the president preferred to remain presidential and de. i think mitt romney did some damage. he did well in the debate. but the truth is he's become, he has become totally untethered from everything he said before andith this final apology for the 47% remark it really does look like a guy who will say anything to get to be president of the united states. people look presidential. i don't think president obama will call mitt romney a liar in the next debate. that's not presidential. i think he'll...
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what it means for the presidential race and what are the stakes for the big debate between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan? >>> and wooing the vets out there. why the president who killed bin laden is struggling with that voting bloc? i get the opportunity to talk with the man enlisted to get vets to switch sides, the vice president's son, beau biden. is 7.8% unemployment the real october surprise? we want to know what you think about that. tweet me or find me on facebook, thoma thomasarobertsmsnbc. and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] >>> welcome back. we continue to follow breaking news on msnbc. both the president and mitt romney having live events in virginia this hour on the heels of those new job numbers putting unemployment at its
what it means for the presidential race and what are the stakes for the big debate between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan? >>> and wooing the vets out there. why the president who killed bin laden is struggling with that voting bloc? i get the opportunity to talk with the man enlisted to get vets to switch sides, the vice president's son, beau biden. is 7.8% unemployment the real october surprise? we want to know what you think about that. tweet me or find me on...
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in my experience as a presidential candidate on the debate the other night was the events he did in both cycles last campaign in 2008 and this one, his so-called ask mitt anything events where he did take questions from people. he showed humor and the kind of fluidness and personality that he showed in the depate ba in those events and people that think this format clearly favors the president i don't think are right. >> but you know, one advantage that mitt romney won't have, barack obama will not be unprepared for the second debate the way he was for the first one. he's a competitive guy, we know he wants to win this election, he's smart. i have to believe he is going to focus and prepare in a way he did not the first time around. >> and frankly a low bar for the president next time because he just has to be aggressive, right? that's what he wasn't in this debate. i think he can easily meet or exceed expectations just by, you know, i don't know, five-hour energy or something before he goes out there. >> thank you very much. it's great to see you, eugene, susan, mark halperin, than
in my experience as a presidential candidate on the debate the other night was the events he did in both cycles last campaign in 2008 and this one, his so-called ask mitt anything events where he did take questions from people. he showed humor and the kind of fluidness and personality that he showed in the depate ba in those events and people that think this format clearly favors the president i don't think are right. >> but you know, one advantage that mitt romney won't have, barack...
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i think the final thing is that romney put obamacare back on the map in this election. this election was all about the economy. now it's about the economy and obamacare. and particularly the health care rationing board. i think that was very effective. i think those strategic adjustments are far more important than the good feeling that you have of romney after this debate. >> greta: when should we expect to see the new poll results that reflect the response to the debate? >> yes. they will. have you to remember, rasmussen, the poll thaig think is the most accurate, is a moving five-day sample. so if you will take a week before we have the full post debate polling. but there will be other polls. you will see a big shifting in the polls. joining it's retrievable by obama. i don't think you get a second chance to make a first impression. and i think that romney really scored. i thought when he explained to people that tax cut on the rich would not be on the rich, it was a tax increase on the rich, it was a tax increase on small business employers and they employ 50% of th
i think the final thing is that romney put obamacare back on the map in this election. this election was all about the economy. now it's about the economy and obamacare. and particularly the health care rationing board. i think that was very effective. i think those strategic adjustments are far more important than the good feeling that you have of romney after this debate. >> greta: when should we expect to see the new poll results that reflect the response to the debate? >> yes....
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>> well, mitt romney had to stand on the stage and look presidential and a plausible alternative to president obama. he certainly cleared that bar. i think in many people's thought he went beyond, control the stage, giving memorable lines and standing up to the president, and occasionally the moderator in kind of an aggressive way. >> woodruff: scott what, about the president? you've been out on the trail listening to him. what differences? what similarities did you see tonight? >> well, he was really trying to get mitt romney to give some specifics about what het would mean for his tax pran. what would his changes to dodd-frank mean? what would his repeal of obamacare mean? he didn't hear the specifics. and i think the memorable line from president obama is, is romney keeping these details quiet because they're too good for the middle class? >> woodruff: are you-- i mean, did the president's campaign expect that romney was going to be more specific tonight? >> no, i think they wanted to point out there are not a lot of specifics in the romney plan. whether that's an impression that will be m
>> well, mitt romney had to stand on the stage and look presidential and a plausible alternative to president obama. he certainly cleared that bar. i think in many people's thought he went beyond, control the stage, giving memorable lines and standing up to the president, and occasionally the moderator in kind of an aggressive way. >> woodruff: scott what, about the president? you've been out on the trail listening to him. what differences? what similarities did you see tonight?...